Rencontres Amicale – Paris 2013 – Part Two

Afternoon Seminar: Lie- Twist the Joint – Herve


LIE is first a downward movement, sitting down to generate energy. LIE then creates spirals by moving, either forward or back, up or down. LIE can be done clockwise or anti-clockwise, so an elbow can be pushed inward or outwards.

The spine remains vertical (which is very important). The spirals are generated in the opponent. The Inner Channel (ie Dantian extended up and down along the vertical) is stiffened (strengthened) as movement issues from it. This Inner Channel is like a flag pole anchoring you to the ground while the spirals are sent through the opponent.

The gaze is very important. In China they say “The King looks, the General orders and the troops execute” meaning that the Gaze comes first, followed by the actions of the waist ( the “General”) and the arms (the “Troops”) execute the action. So the look leads the movement. The body might turn, but the eyes guide the direction of the energy.

LIE is often paired with another movement – a LU can turn into a LIE, for example.


3 Escapes:


The following are three examples of possible escapes form a LIE.


  1. Along the Horizontal.


If the opponent has your arm in a classic LIE (for example with the right elbow pulled up and the right hand pushed down, twisting your shoulder), turn the hand further in the same direction, rotating the shoulder and extending the right arm to the right. At the same time, push the opponent’s shoulder with the free left hand in the direction of the escape (your right).


  1. Spiral up from the Horizontal and throw.


From the same set-up as above, escape to the right but instead of extending the arm fully along the horizontal spiral the arm up and across the opponent’s neck or shoulder. If the motion is matched by a step forward and to the side, then a twist of the body, you can throw your opponent over the hip and onto the ground.


  1. Spiral up.


From the same set-up, lift your right arm upwards (elbow first). This pulls the opponent’s hands up. In order for this to occur, the waist must simultaneously turn to the outside (squaring the hips), creating a void in which the movement can occur and countering the twist of the shoulder. Your right wrist can grab the opponent’s wrist while at the same time your left hand pushes the opponent’s elbow up. The hands can spiral, reversing the LIE.


3a. Spiral up and step, a variation.


From the same set-up, spiral up as a defense from a LIE. But as you are spiraling up you can step back and around, drawing the opponent’s arm across the Dantian or chest. This lever action draws the opponent’s shoulder down as you twist the joints of the wrist and elbow.


Notes on Zhou and Kai:


Zhou and Kai – Elbow Strike and Shoulder Strike – are sudden and brusk, like a tiger stalking in the brush.

In Zhou, point the foot towards the ground during the stepping.

“Shoulder Strike” is a misnomer. You can KAI with the shoulder, the side, the buttock. It is a dropping energy, like a sack of flour falling from a height. Each strike stays connected to the ground through the leg.